Seems like you have lots of people who agree with you, myself included.

I hate being hassled, and not only will I avoid that area where you get hassled, I avoid that particular resort altogether, so not only are those ‘pushers’ harming their own business long term, also those of their competitors.

Therefore, not only will you get people ‘crossing the road’ just to avoid you (unsubscribing), but people can get a bad impression from a general type of people, i.e. in this case, all Internet Marketers, because of the experience they have had with just one or two lists they have been on and not bother subscribing to any others becaues they think they know what they will be getting in their inbox every day.

Marc Sampson.
http://www.marcsampson.com

Hope you had a nice vacation, aside from all those hasslers lol.

Really good post, definitely agree. I’ve heard tons of different opinions on this topic, but I think in the end it’s best to stick with free advice instead of shoving offer after offer at your subscribers.

A really good example would be Lee Mcintyre. He has a relatively small list compared to some of the larger marketers, but the responsiveness of that list blows the rest away!

Big G Killer

Good post. It’s a fine line in email marketing isn’t it?

I did a few tests where I emailed my list EVERYDAY with FREE advice and then emailed them 2-3 times in the week with “sales offers”. The results were pretty eye-opening…

The people who received FREE advice emails DAILY, STILL remained on my list but when they were being presented with the pitchy emails I received unsubscribers.

I have since amended my mailings frequency to 1 pitch per week, and a mailing 3-4 times per week with advice (e.g. a link to my blog posts)

I think it’s all down to testing at the end of the day.

Regards

Ray

Great post. This is something all email marketers should be doing.

A couple of days ago I unsubscribed from a certain internet marketers mailing list because he was doing the exact opposite of what you said, always trying to push a sell and never giving out free useful information. Sometimes I would get the same email 2 or 3 times in a day!

William
http://www.william-gary.com

If I was in the area of Benidorm you mention I would just take the voucher while I walked along and put it in my pocket. Smile on the face. Then I would go into the bar that I wanted to drink in. When I got back to the apartment I would empty my pocket of unwanted pieces of paper. While you may be thinking “go away you prat” keep the peace with a smile on your face and drink where you wish.

Enjoy your next trip to Benidorm….maybe the vouchers will still be valid!!

Thanks for all your advice.

John Beer

You hit the nail right on the head. As a person attempting to get things going on the internet I met up with this one guy who is suppose to be the best of the best. Well let me tell you, every and I mean every email I received from him was a constant sales pitch. There would be little bit of advice (not much) and then the normal sales pitch. After a few weeks I started seeing him as a sales man who was never sure what company he worked for as he was always recommending someone’s product every other day so I unsubscribed.

I am running my business online keeping in mind the internet works because of people like all of us and I myself would like to have a good experience and meet good people. Working together is still necessary online as we want to have a great reputation in this line of work. Our company believes there is enough to go around for everyone. “Run Your Business With Respect To Others And You Will Succeed Given Persistency, Determination and of course the Right Product” “Good Day to Everyone.”

Carefull I live and work in Germany

Wait till you got to “Turkey” for your holidays and say
“Nein, Danke” the reps and the like will be all over you

The English have a bad time in Benidorm and the Germans
have the same problem in Turkey.

Pushy marketers never get my business. I think you’re right when you say to balance out the email marketing.

Jerry

Randy’s idea of pretending to be German had me ROFL, but he makes a bigger point, I think.

If you can’t sell the rep on the idea that you won’t be persuaded, they’ll keep trying to sell you on coming to their bar.

I know in my own case if I’m ‘pitched’ by anyone they tend to take my no as a definite no because if I say no I mean no, but my father-in-law can’t get away from them. When he says no, he doesn’t really mean no and they sense it.

Kids have the finest instincts for that in the world. “Do it now” from me has them doing what they’re told. When mum says “Do it now” there’s a 10 minute discussion about it, usually. That means my kinds know not even to ask me when they’re sure the answer is going to be NO. The consequence of that is that they ‘pitch’ me far less than they ‘pitch’ their mum.

They ‘spam’ her!

As you say, hit your subscribers too often with your hand out and you’ll push them away.