Comments on: I’ve Been Suffering From Promo Overload

By: John Pugh

John Pugh — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 22:39:19 +0000

The frighting thing is, who the hell is buying it ? There’s a big market out there to be taken from the scammers, and one admitting screwing, and to put them on the right path. I need to speak to JT about this one. Best Regards John Pugh.

By: Rita Johnson

Rita Johnson — Sun, 05 Dec 2010 19:00:26 +0000

Hi John Just wanted to say thanks for your honesty at least you own up to your mistakes, and I can see how any one of us could get caught up in this. Chances are I have purchased the products you are talking about.

Sadly of lately as you said product after product is failing to produce any results at all especially the push button typ. Internet marketing is not easy it takes hard work just like anything else in life.

When you have lots of friends in the industy it has always been a case of lets JV nothing wrong with that. But I think if promoting high ticket products on behalf of others then perhaps you or an outsourcer could test it first. You are one of the few left with a good reputation for value and money and now you have added honesty to the list keep going I am still in.

By: Gary Simpson

Gary Simpson — Sun, 05 Dec 2010 01:40:07 +0000

OMG Omar!

“I spoke with one of these guys in Vegas and when I inquired about his product not working he said… “Omar, who cares?… 70% of people wont ever even open the file they bought and another 29% wont get passed video#1 so I’m only really screwing 1% of the people..!!”

THAT is a bloody disgrace! SHAMEFUL! Whoever it was should be run out of this “profession.” Morons like that stink it up for everyone. No wonder the “trust factor” is almost non-existant now.

Gary Simpson

By: Omar Martin

Omar Martin — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 15:18:46 +0000

It not about greed, but I can see how it would appear to be that way. Myself in particular… yes I want to help people and I do so every chance I get, BUT, let us not forget that this is A BUSINESS.

We did not quit our jobs and become an internet marketers to create a charity. We did it to create a profit and support our families.

I think people forget this at times. I love helping people and I provide tons of free training and tools for my subscribers but some people just want you to give them your “limbs” for free.

I recently did a FULL month of free daily content, every day I emailed free training and posted it on my blog. No promo’s, no pitch … nothing.

Have a look for yourself… http://Ez.com/OmarsFREEcontent

I sacrificed over $10k of monthly affiliate income to have a “Subscriber Appreciation Month”… would you believe that we got a folder full of “HATE MAIL”??

Yes, over 60 emails from people that were unhappy with the free training- most of them wanted me to do the work for them. It’s amazing… or they would complain that I should do 2 or 3 videos per day instead of just 1. WHATT????

In the end… you just can’t make everyone happy no matter what you do. The key is to strike a balance. Provide “some” free content while continuing to promote “ethical” offers to support ones family and have a prosperous business.

That is what works for me. Those that don’t agree can always unsubscribe.

By: Omar Martin

Omar Martin — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 15:00:07 +0000

Yes – and I’ve recently seen quite a division in our industry. It is becoming more and more evident who these people are. As they say “The cream rises to the top” …

I was at the Affilliate’s Appreciation event in Vegas last week and as I looked around it was easy to see how the scammers gravitate to one another and form groups.

It happens in person, just as it does online. These guys know they are pedaling “crap” and they factor in a 50% + refund rate … but they team up to promote each others stuff so it just becomes a numbers game. Even with a 50% refund rate they know that they’ll make $500k plus.

They keep a calendar and take turns launching… They make these secret “cliques” and thats how they literally “saturate” the internet on a given day to launch their stuff.

Its a genius concept if their products were legit and actually WORKED. But they don’t.

I spoke with one of these guys in Vegas and when I inquired about his product not working he said… “Omar, who cares?… 70% of people wont ever even open the file they bought and another 29% wont get passed video#1 so I’m only really screwing 1% of the people..!!”

WOW – yes thats exactly what he said. I looked at him in awe, then I went to the bar and anestethized myself with alchohol.

I’m confident that http://IMtrustworthy.com will finally separate these crooks from the good guys.

Great post John!

Omar

By: egrifey

egrifey — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 14:37:23 +0000

I allow myself to agree with Omar. From John lately getting a lot of emails advertising and joint ventures. Sometimes it’s frustrating when people expect more from the aid. Me, I think that you first need to help the novice to gain a business under your control, and then from him to demand the mutual benefits …. I am also well aware that assistance should be different for everyone.
I believe that Omar may understand me correctly, was once you had medical practitioner.
The network of people come to differ in their capabilities. Only dialogue and attention as possible to each can be very helpful …..

By: malcolm mckinnell

malcolm mckinnell — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 16:13:01 +0000

Hi John
I wrote a post today and someone read it and it must have rang a bell somewhere because he referred me to your post here.

Having read your post I have to agree that warming up your email list is far superior to sending out random cold emails.

At the same time if a promise is made maybe through JV Launches and offering bonuses I would make sure they where honoured.

Best Always.

Malcolm.

By: Susie

Susie — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:31:47 +0000

Yay! I’m just seeing this on Sept. 1, because I have kind of quit checking out what you had to say…

I’m so happy you are going to become “yourself” again!

I confess that I bought one of your products, and you provided a bonus wherein you would promote one of the buyer’s products to your list, and I had the unkind thought that it probably wouldn’t bring the same kind of response that it once would have. (Not that I actually HAVE a product to promote, which is one of my own shortcomings, sigh)

Anyhow, your honesty is refreshing and your insight impeccable.

Completely renews my trust in you, plus some!
Best to you,
Susie

By: Tom Harvey

Tom Harvey — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:32:45 +0000

John, Great post and refreshing to see your honesty. I know (from the number of lists I’m on) that you certainly aren’t the only person guilty of this, and it has got to the point where I don’t read certain e-mails and have unsubscribed froma number of lists that I was previously loyal too as the useful info has all but dried up and I find that I’m being recommended something new every 5 mins!
Whilst I don’t doubt some of these products have value, I simply can’t buy or have the time to learn from and implement all of them and surely the marketers must realise this. I’m all for options, but when a number of these products are effectively the same I find it frustrating that there are no honest reviews and comparisons being made.
One of the things my mentor Alex Jeffreys teaches is about Marketing with your subscribers not to them and I completely agree with his approach – its not about pushing every single product because it converts well, but by recommending products that will be helpful and offer value. This builds a more sustainable business model in the long run. Look forward to seeing your honest recommendations, all the best
Tom

By: Betsy

Betsy — Sun, 15 Aug 2010 14:47:46 +0000

Funny, I was just getting ready to unsubscribe to you when I decided to open an email that led me to this blog post. Consequently, I will continue as a subscriber. I have deleted many IMers in the last few weeks who seem to have “lost” their way and no longer offer great content — only garbage promotions of affiliate products. I hope I never do that to my subscribers.

Betsy