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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>https://johnthornhillonline.com/blog/rant-dont-ruin-your-affiliate-marketing-business/#comment-3500</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 16:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post! Excellent advice! I am new to blogging and affiliate marketing and there is soooo much junk out there. Establishing and maintaining a good reputation will ensure longevity. Plus you can go to bed with a good conscience when you know you have added value to someone&#039;s life and business!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! Excellent advice! I am new to blogging and affiliate marketing and there is soooo much junk out there. Establishing and maintaining a good reputation will ensure longevity. Plus you can go to bed with a good conscience when you know you have added value to someone&#8217;s life and business!</p>
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		<title>By: Adwello</title>
		<link>https://johnthornhillonline.com/blog/rant-dont-ruin-your-affiliate-marketing-business/#comment-3499</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adwello]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 17:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I totally agree, Glen: I feel quite worried for the state of Clickbank marketing as this company were around more than ten years ago and have become one of the internet marketing success stories of the past decade, but now so many marketers are ruining the trustworthy reputation CB took 10 years to build. Clickbank need to moderate the products and sales pages, ideally starting with banning any vendor who hits more than a 20% refund rate on any product.

I would be ashamed to create then market a product that achieved less than an 80% success rate. Look how efficient you have to be to remain as a seller on eBay: 98% feedback rating. 

I think if we all shun every product with the sales hype graphics and claims, and instead aim to purchase and promote and develop sales pages with a new graphic design and ethical approach to copywriting: avoid earnings claims and actually describe what the product is, what it is meant to achieve, and to whom it is suited, then we can beat the hype.

We don&#039;t have to stand for this kind of marketing: it would not be tolerated in magazines and offline media because of the Advertising authorities so why don&#039;t we all contact Clickbank and seriously complain?

Clickbank will be the ultimate losers if they continue to allow these products to be sold from their platform. Most Top 100 sites like eBay and Amazon would quickly respond and shut the accounts of this type of seller.

We don&#039;t have to take this - we can complain and get CB to change their standards. Does anyone agree with me on this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree, Glen: I feel quite worried for the state of Clickbank marketing as this company were around more than ten years ago and have become one of the internet marketing success stories of the past decade, but now so many marketers are ruining the trustworthy reputation CB took 10 years to build. Clickbank need to moderate the products and sales pages, ideally starting with banning any vendor who hits more than a 20% refund rate on any product.</p>
<p>I would be ashamed to create then market a product that achieved less than an 80% success rate. Look how efficient you have to be to remain as a seller on eBay: 98% feedback rating. </p>
<p>I think if we all shun every product with the sales hype graphics and claims, and instead aim to purchase and promote and develop sales pages with a new graphic design and ethical approach to copywriting: avoid earnings claims and actually describe what the product is, what it is meant to achieve, and to whom it is suited, then we can beat the hype.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t have to stand for this kind of marketing: it would not be tolerated in magazines and offline media because of the Advertising authorities so why don&#8217;t we all contact Clickbank and seriously complain?</p>
<p>Clickbank will be the ultimate losers if they continue to allow these products to be sold from their platform. Most Top 100 sites like eBay and Amazon would quickly respond and shut the accounts of this type of seller.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t have to take this &#8211; we can complain and get CB to change their standards. Does anyone agree with me on this?</p>
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		<title>By: Adwello</title>
		<link>https://johnthornhillonline.com/blog/rant-dont-ruin-your-affiliate-marketing-business/#comment-3498</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adwello]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 16:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, my first reaction to your first paragraph, John, was &quot;Oh no! What now!&quot; and then I thought, &quot;Well, really this applies to so many of the latest CB sales pages with big sales hype, sales report screenshots and no real details about what the product actually is, and who will truly benefit from it..&quot; 

Maybe CB could ban use of sales report shots? All the latest product sales pages look so similar it is hard to spot the difference! The product names are so similar. The graphics are near identical. 

The refund rates are seriously giving CB a bad name: I shun Clickbank products now! CB need to address this issue to protect the interests of those selling products that do what they claim.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, my first reaction to your first paragraph, John, was &#8220;Oh no! What now!&#8221; and then I thought, &#8220;Well, really this applies to so many of the latest CB sales pages with big sales hype, sales report screenshots and no real details about what the product actually is, and who will truly benefit from it..&#8221; </p>
<p>Maybe CB could ban use of sales report shots? All the latest product sales pages look so similar it is hard to spot the difference! The product names are so similar. The graphics are near identical. </p>
<p>The refund rates are seriously giving CB a bad name: I shun Clickbank products now! CB need to address this issue to protect the interests of those selling products that do what they claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Clive O'Hagan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clive O'Hagan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 19:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P.S. I nearly forgot to add this into the comment, so if you can cut and paste into comment above (minus this would be great)

I think the post is so, so true and I for one have bought a lot of products over the last few months, primarily to see if they were actually worth re-selling and secondly to learn some new cutting edge tactic. Tactics??? they may as well have been selling Tic-tac&#039;s for all the good they were.

 I reviewed most of them in about 10 minutes flat before I quickly went to click-bank and got my money back and added it to my list of &quot;not with a barge pole!&quot; and put the promoter down on the naughty list but not before sending a WTF? email to his or her blog and/or direct email. Which BTW I never received a reply.  Any way I rant to much. 

Regards, 

Clive O&#039;Hagan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. I nearly forgot to add this into the comment, so if you can cut and paste into comment above (minus this would be great)</p>
<p>I think the post is so, so true and I for one have bought a lot of products over the last few months, primarily to see if they were actually worth re-selling and secondly to learn some new cutting edge tactic. Tactics??? they may as well have been selling Tic-tac&#8217;s for all the good they were.</p>
<p> I reviewed most of them in about 10 minutes flat before I quickly went to click-bank and got my money back and added it to my list of &#8220;not with a barge pole!&#8221; and put the promoter down on the naughty list but not before sending a WTF? email to his or her blog and/or direct email. Which BTW I never received a reply.  Any way I rant to much. </p>
<p>Regards, </p>
<p>Clive O&#8217;Hagan</p>
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		<title>By: Clive O'Hagan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clive O'Hagan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 19:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi John,

I just have to say this is my first comment on your site and I wanted to say first of all good luck with the launch and I know it will do well and give lots of useful, informative and correct content. I have been following you for a while now and was trying to figure out if you were for real and have come to the conclusion that you and the other guys in your circle are the ultimate people in ethical marketing tactics. I look forward to seeing the course and maybe promoting it in the future to my own subscribers. 

Kind Regards, 

Clive O&#039;Hagan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>I just have to say this is my first comment on your site and I wanted to say first of all good luck with the launch and I know it will do well and give lots of useful, informative and correct content. I have been following you for a while now and was trying to figure out if you were for real and have come to the conclusion that you and the other guys in your circle are the ultimate people in ethical marketing tactics. I look forward to seeing the course and maybe promoting it in the future to my own subscribers. </p>
<p>Kind Regards, </p>
<p>Clive O&#8217;Hagan</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Simpson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 02:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well the cat is among the pigeons now. I just released my 55 page no-opt in report about zombie marketing.

I&#039;m just so SICK of all the stupid sh*tty &quot;tactics&quot; these people use. Whenever I see them peddling their junk in my in-box I just keep thinking one word: zombie. Now, after I&#039;ve had my counter-attack, I&#039;m thinking it&#039;s just about time to leave them all to it. I&#039;ve had enough. It&#039;s become INSANE.

Regards to all the THINKING people here.

Gary Simpson]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the cat is among the pigeons now. I just released my 55 page no-opt in report about zombie marketing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just so SICK of all the stupid sh*tty &#8220;tactics&#8221; these people use. Whenever I see them peddling their junk in my in-box I just keep thinking one word: zombie. Now, after I&#8217;ve had my counter-attack, I&#8217;m thinking it&#8217;s just about time to leave them all to it. I&#8217;ve had enough. It&#8217;s become INSANE.</p>
<p>Regards to all the THINKING people here.</p>
<p>Gary Simpson</p>
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		<title>By: John McNally</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John McNally]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 16:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks John, this does help and I shall start looking at the Warrior forum for reviews.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks John, this does help and I shall start looking at the Warrior forum for reviews.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Wells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi John, another post full of good sound advice.

I read a post by Andrew Hansen last week where he was saying about a conversation he over heard at a seminar, in the bar area a few meters from the people they were selling to. He was saying about some of the products being sold needing further products to get the best from them, as you mentioned in one of your replys above. As well as some of them becoming obsolete in a matter of months. As I said in a comment yesterday, the fact that they&#039;re face to face and telling blatent lies just to rip people off is disgusting and we should all try and avoid them at all costs. 

I class myself as a 2nd year newbie and as a result of reading these kind of posts i have written one similar, not from an affiliate marketing point of view, but from a newbie save your money point of view.

I&#039;m in the process of building my list and I make myself very aware of which products i promote. Like many of the commentators above, I only promote products and services that i have used, or had access to.

I&#039;m a firm beleiver that you get out what you put in. Be that your bank account, work or your mailing list. If you push crap you&#039;ll receive crap results, if you give value you&#039;ll receive value in some form or other. 

Thanks again for the advice John,

Barry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John, another post full of good sound advice.</p>
<p>I read a post by Andrew Hansen last week where he was saying about a conversation he over heard at a seminar, in the bar area a few meters from the people they were selling to. He was saying about some of the products being sold needing further products to get the best from them, as you mentioned in one of your replys above. As well as some of them becoming obsolete in a matter of months. As I said in a comment yesterday, the fact that they&#8217;re face to face and telling blatent lies just to rip people off is disgusting and we should all try and avoid them at all costs. </p>
<p>I class myself as a 2nd year newbie and as a result of reading these kind of posts i have written one similar, not from an affiliate marketing point of view, but from a newbie save your money point of view.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in the process of building my list and I make myself very aware of which products i promote. Like many of the commentators above, I only promote products and services that i have used, or had access to.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a firm beleiver that you get out what you put in. Be that your bank account, work or your mailing list. If you push crap you&#8217;ll receive crap results, if you give value you&#8217;ll receive value in some form or other. </p>
<p>Thanks again for the advice John,</p>
<p>Barry</p>
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		<title>By: Gav</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gav]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 18:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree, I mean how many ways can u dress up an  article submitter, every one seems to be selling or trying to sell me a disguised article spinner/ submitter !!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, I mean how many ways can u dress up an  article submitter, every one seems to be selling or trying to sell me a disguised article spinner/ submitter !!</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Purkiss</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keith Purkiss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 17:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi John,

I don&#039;t even bother looking at most launches nowadays because of the way things are going. There&#039;s at least one marketer who&#039;s packed in after seeing the direction IM is going in.

In the long run I&#039;m sure the people who consistantly produce (or promote) quality products will stand out.

Thanks

Keith]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even bother looking at most launches nowadays because of the way things are going. There&#8217;s at least one marketer who&#8217;s packed in after seeing the direction IM is going in.</p>
<p>In the long run I&#8217;m sure the people who consistantly produce (or promote) quality products will stand out.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Keith</p>
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