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		<title>By: John Reed</title>
		<link>https://johnthornhillonline.com/blog/rant-were-not-stupid/#comment-3392</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Reed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Maureen,
I understand your feelings but I would advise you to contact the &quot;Coach&quot; and let him know about them. As you&#039;ve said, it&#039;s probably just his routine - but routines can be changed, and should be for anyone paying for coaching.
John O&#039;York]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Maureen,<br />
I understand your feelings but I would advise you to contact the &#8220;Coach&#8221; and let him know about them. As you&#8217;ve said, it&#8217;s probably just his routine &#8211; but routines can be changed, and should be for anyone paying for coaching.<br />
John O&#8217;York</p>
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		<title>By: John Reed</title>
		<link>https://johnthornhillonline.com/blog/rant-were-not-stupid/#comment-3391</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Reed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for that oh so valid comment Marc (Milburn).
I think it was Shane Melaugh who recently highlighted a chronic example of this inane procedure.... with some effect from what I saw over the next couple of days.  I don&#039;t recall the detail exactly but there were originally at least 6 clicks to get away from one product, and it went down to 2 shortly after Shane&#039;s Video Rant.
I&#039;m heartily sick of the regurgitated crap, these stupid repetitive &quot;Let Me Get The Hell Out&quot; obstacles, AND the ridiculous claims like &quot;Only 250 will be available&quot;!  As John says - who the Hell do they think they&#039;re broadcasting to??!!
I have even given up looking at most of these new items now - and Randy thinks of ME as &quot;Mr Magpie&quot; - can&#039;t resist something new and shiny!!!  Well, nowadays Randy, I just remind myself of two things:
1.  Anyone regurgitating Crap must have very little taste left - hehe!
2.  Anyone recommending Crap should recall that you can&#039;t polish a T**d!

That keeps me sane, and on the straight and narrow.
Thanks John]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that oh so valid comment Marc (Milburn).<br />
I think it was Shane Melaugh who recently highlighted a chronic example of this inane procedure&#8230;. with some effect from what I saw over the next couple of days.  I don&#8217;t recall the detail exactly but there were originally at least 6 clicks to get away from one product, and it went down to 2 shortly after Shane&#8217;s Video Rant.<br />
I&#8217;m heartily sick of the regurgitated crap, these stupid repetitive &#8220;Let Me Get The Hell Out&#8221; obstacles, AND the ridiculous claims like &#8220;Only 250 will be available&#8221;!  As John says &#8211; who the Hell do they think they&#8217;re broadcasting to??!!<br />
I have even given up looking at most of these new items now &#8211; and Randy thinks of ME as &#8220;Mr Magpie&#8221; &#8211; can&#8217;t resist something new and shiny!!!  Well, nowadays Randy, I just remind myself of two things:<br />
1.  Anyone regurgitating Crap must have very little taste left &#8211; hehe!<br />
2.  Anyone recommending Crap should recall that you can&#8217;t polish a T**d!</p>
<p>That keeps me sane, and on the straight and narrow.<br />
Thanks John</p>
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		<title>By: Andy@PowerBlog</title>
		<link>https://johnthornhillonline.com/blog/rant-were-not-stupid/#comment-3390</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another thing that irks me is when an email drops into the inbox and states. My good friend xxx has let me give you this free gift, but it is for a limited time only. One, he probably is not your friend. This is just an ad swap or a solo ad, Two, it is not limited. I can come back anytime I want. Three, It is not free if you want my email. That is a trade.

John, you have started me off now. I better go and take a blood pressure reading.

Actually I have just thought about this. Two faced or what? On my very own blog I ask for an email address for a marketing course, but I do call it free. I better change that. lol

Andy B]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing that irks me is when an email drops into the inbox and states. My good friend xxx has let me give you this free gift, but it is for a limited time only. One, he probably is not your friend. This is just an ad swap or a solo ad, Two, it is not limited. I can come back anytime I want. Three, It is not free if you want my email. That is a trade.</p>
<p>John, you have started me off now. I better go and take a blood pressure reading.</p>
<p>Actually I have just thought about this. Two faced or what? On my very own blog I ask for an email address for a marketing course, but I do call it free. I better change that. lol</p>
<p>Andy B</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Nariel</title>
		<link>https://johnthornhillonline.com/blog/rant-were-not-stupid/#comment-3389</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Nariel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very well said my friend. As a potential buyer I just ignore these tactics as they may fool you once but not time and again

I think the honest marketer and the persomn
 adding value by giving away free content is the way of the future and not the &quot;second hand car salesman&quot; approach

Thanks for the post]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said my friend. As a potential buyer I just ignore these tactics as they may fool you once but not time and again</p>
<p>I think the honest marketer and the persomn<br />
 adding value by giving away free content is the way of the future and not the &#8220;second hand car salesman&#8221; approach</p>
<p>Thanks for the post</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Coates</title>
		<link>https://johnthornhillonline.com/blog/rant-were-not-stupid/#comment-3388</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy Coates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi John and the other readers to this rant

I was one of the First Direct sellers (face to face in store and door knockers) in the energy Business,  you know the guy that used to bother you when you or your wife were out shopping in Morrison&#039;s or Sainsbury&#039;s or Tesco&#039;s etc etc  you name them,  I worked in them.

Now in that time the amount of sales people I saw come, and more importantly go!
was immense. You see most of the so-called sales people were just out and out liars.
and they were soon caught out within a few short weeks and sacked! So initially they 
thought they were the DB’s at the top of the sales board (the short fat road) but ultimately the bad selling tactics, or lying as I called it! Caught up with them and they were out of a job (and a high paying one at that!) 
 

Now I did this for nearly Ten years so I was good at it (and good at Teaching it) and I was always up front and Honest with people.
Now I used to Train new starters and one principle in particular, which was,  &quot;you can have a short Fat road or a much longer thin road&quot; Now to Me John you come from the Long (and more sustainable) Thin road of Marketing and Teachings!

As for the latest round of crappy emails i keep getting (along with all your other subscribers) well the senders will do ok for a while but! Will ultimately pay the price 
Loss of trust, loss of subscribers, and loss of income

While Gay’s (sorry I meant Guy’s) like you and Dave N. will still be in the game.

Good Subject John.

 And To anyone reading this

“Have the best day you can have…… its truly your choice”

Andy Coates (week 8 on J.T’s M/class course)



Ps John. My Teacher / Mentor at the time in the Energy business was from your neck of the woods, from, Washington, Sunderland. Feels like I have come full circle. Just hope I can achieve the same results with you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John and the other readers to this rant</p>
<p>I was one of the First Direct sellers (face to face in store and door knockers) in the energy Business,  you know the guy that used to bother you when you or your wife were out shopping in Morrison&#8217;s or Sainsbury&#8217;s or Tesco&#8217;s etc etc  you name them,  I worked in them.</p>
<p>Now in that time the amount of sales people I saw come, and more importantly go!<br />
was immense. You see most of the so-called sales people were just out and out liars.<br />
and they were soon caught out within a few short weeks and sacked! So initially they<br />
thought they were the DB’s at the top of the sales board (the short fat road) but ultimately the bad selling tactics, or lying as I called it! Caught up with them and they were out of a job (and a high paying one at that!) </p>
<p>Now I did this for nearly Ten years so I was good at it (and good at Teaching it) and I was always up front and Honest with people.<br />
Now I used to Train new starters and one principle in particular, which was,  &#8220;you can have a short Fat road or a much longer thin road&#8221; Now to Me John you come from the Long (and more sustainable) Thin road of Marketing and Teachings!</p>
<p>As for the latest round of crappy emails i keep getting (along with all your other subscribers) well the senders will do ok for a while but! Will ultimately pay the price<br />
Loss of trust, loss of subscribers, and loss of income</p>
<p>While Gay’s (sorry I meant Guy’s) like you and Dave N. will still be in the game.</p>
<p>Good Subject John.</p>
<p> And To anyone reading this</p>
<p>“Have the best day you can have…… its truly your choice”</p>
<p>Andy Coates (week 8 on J.T’s M/class course)</p>
<p>Ps John. My Teacher / Mentor at the time in the Energy business was from your neck of the woods, from, Washington, Sunderland. Feels like I have come full circle. Just hope I can achieve the same results with you!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Sumner</title>
		<link>https://johnthornhillonline.com/blog/rant-were-not-stupid/#comment-3387</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Sumner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Adwello,

Thanks for the compliment, I&#039;m glad you like the sales page and look forward to communicating with you.

You do have to look though the “Me Too” products to get to the good value. However I think everyone deserves a shot and Clickbank is usually the place to begin. 

Sometimes you need to go that extra mile to get recognised and stop guys from clicking away by being a little different :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Adwello,</p>
<p>Thanks for the compliment, I&#8217;m glad you like the sales page and look forward to communicating with you.</p>
<p>You do have to look though the “Me Too” products to get to the good value. However I think everyone deserves a shot and Clickbank is usually the place to begin. </p>
<p>Sometimes you need to go that extra mile to get recognised and stop guys from clicking away by being a little different <img src="https://johnthornhillonline.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/simple-smile.png" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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		<title>By: Adwello Strategies</title>
		<link>https://johnthornhillonline.com/blog/rant-were-not-stupid/#comment-3386</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adwello Strategies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think we are flooded in bogus I.M. products Daniel, although each week that passes it seems there are ever more products on Clickbank that are just so &quot;Me Too&quot; especially traffic generating systems which all have such similar names and lookalike sales pages - it&#039;s got to a point where I just look at the headline and click away now! I actually think 90% of these systems do work - if you already know a lot of I.M. basics..it&#039;s just they are too similar and the earnings claims are sooooooo boring!! Not bogus, but boring!

I like the look of your Online Income Advisor program, Dan, and intend to subscribe later this month - only reason for my delay is that I have a desktop full of &quot;To-Do&quot; systems I must wade through this and next week before I am free to take on any more learning! But see, YOUR sales page is original, your claims are cool, your graphics are great, you sound genuine and classy. Good on you! :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think we are flooded in bogus I.M. products Daniel, although each week that passes it seems there are ever more products on Clickbank that are just so &#8220;Me Too&#8221; especially traffic generating systems which all have such similar names and lookalike sales pages &#8211; it&#8217;s got to a point where I just look at the headline and click away now! I actually think 90% of these systems do work &#8211; if you already know a lot of I.M. basics..it&#8217;s just they are too similar and the earnings claims are sooooooo boring!! Not bogus, but boring!</p>
<p>I like the look of your Online Income Advisor program, Dan, and intend to subscribe later this month &#8211; only reason for my delay is that I have a desktop full of &#8220;To-Do&#8221; systems I must wade through this and next week before I am free to take on any more learning! But see, YOUR sales page is original, your claims are cool, your graphics are great, you sound genuine and classy. Good on you! 😀</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen</title>
		<link>https://johnthornhillonline.com/blog/rant-were-not-stupid/#comment-3385</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maureen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 00:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi John,

Thanks for all of this good information....from you and most of the others.  Sadly, a lot of these bad Subject Lines have some excellent information in the content:  However will never be seen, because email will NOT be opened.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>Thanks for all of this good information&#8230;.from you and most of the others.  Sadly, a lot of these bad Subject Lines have some excellent information in the content:  However will never be seen, because email will NOT be opened.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Conti</title>
		<link>https://johnthornhillonline.com/blog/rant-were-not-stupid/#comment-3384</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terry Conti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey John with this kind of marketing, makes me wonder what kind of informational product they must have.  Separating yourself from this type of marketing will get you noticed.  Telling like it is, being honest are always best and will not lead you into problems in the marketing world.  As always, Honesty is the best policy.

Terry Conti]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John with this kind of marketing, makes me wonder what kind of informational product they must have.  Separating yourself from this type of marketing will get you noticed.  Telling like it is, being honest are always best and will not lead you into problems in the marketing world.  As always, Honesty is the best policy.</p>
<p>Terry Conti</p>
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		<title>By: ed lynch</title>
		<link>https://johnthornhillonline.com/blog/rant-were-not-stupid/#comment-3383</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ed lynch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 17:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi John.....how true it is! As an IM newbie, I get sick and tired of the unscrupulous marketers that take advantage of the unknowing by making false claims or promises they can&#039;t or won&#039;t keep.Not only does it waste the buyer&#039;s money, but valuable time that could be spent on legitimate profit generating activities and products. However,in IM as in every other area of life, what goes around comes around! Great post, John.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John&#8230;..how true it is! As an IM newbie, I get sick and tired of the unscrupulous marketers that take advantage of the unknowing by making false claims or promises they can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t keep.Not only does it waste the buyer&#8217;s money, but valuable time that could be spent on legitimate profit generating activities and products. However,in IM as in every other area of life, what goes around comes around! Great post, John.</p>
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