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		<title>By: Paul Smith</title>
		<link>https://johnthornhillonline.com/blog/the-state-of-the-im-industry/#comment-4074</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 19:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi John
I recently had a call from Randy Smith to discuss your mentoring programs, and i could see from the conversation that you and everyone you recommend with regards to I.M is ethical and trustworthy.

i totally agree with the guy Rob in the earlier post about all the so called Guru&#039;s who just sell you a product, get your cash then P*** off
never to be seen again.

I can honestly say that if it was not for these B*******S i could have registered for the masterclass program this week instead of having to wait till i have re couped my losses.

By the way the Planetsms blog is great and i have tried to model my blog along the same lines, keep up the good work

Kindest Regards
Paul Smith]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John<br />
I recently had a call from Randy Smith to discuss your mentoring programs, and i could see from the conversation that you and everyone you recommend with regards to I.M is ethical and trustworthy.</p>
<p>i totally agree with the guy Rob in the earlier post about all the so called Guru&#8217;s who just sell you a product, get your cash then P*** off<br />
never to be seen again.</p>
<p>I can honestly say that if it was not for these B*******S i could have registered for the masterclass program this week instead of having to wait till i have re couped my losses.</p>
<p>By the way the Planetsms blog is great and i have tried to model my blog along the same lines, keep up the good work</p>
<p>Kindest Regards<br />
Paul Smith</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Ashwood</title>
		<link>https://johnthornhillonline.com/blog/the-state-of-the-im-industry/#comment-4073</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan Ashwood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The sad fact is, that in the current economy, there are always new people desperately looking to earn from the internet. I won&#039;t call them gullible, but they are simply easy targets for the Get Rich Quick vilains. Many of them become overwhelmed form buying too many &#039;products&#039;, and don&#039;t even have the opportunity to try them before the 60 guarantee runs out.
I think that, bewildered by all the jargon, they quickly jump to another &#039;opportunity&#039; before they&#039;ve learned to master the one they already have.
Because they are being pumped up with &#039;quick easy promises&#039;, they can&#039;t understand that the very thing that should be helping them simply doesn&#039;t work.
How on Earth can we direct them to the honest people in the business, if they don&#039;t even know if they can trust us?
Once you&#039;ve been around for a few months you start to wise up to the BS, but many give up before the penny drops, leaving their money in the crooks&#039; bank accounts.

Alan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad fact is, that in the current economy, there are always new people desperately looking to earn from the internet. I won&#8217;t call them gullible, but they are simply easy targets for the Get Rich Quick vilains. Many of them become overwhelmed form buying too many &#8216;products&#8217;, and don&#8217;t even have the opportunity to try them before the 60 guarantee runs out.<br />
I think that, bewildered by all the jargon, they quickly jump to another &#8216;opportunity&#8217; before they&#8217;ve learned to master the one they already have.<br />
Because they are being pumped up with &#8216;quick easy promises&#8217;, they can&#8217;t understand that the very thing that should be helping them simply doesn&#8217;t work.<br />
How on Earth can we direct them to the honest people in the business, if they don&#8217;t even know if they can trust us?<br />
Once you&#8217;ve been around for a few months you start to wise up to the BS, but many give up before the penny drops, leaving their money in the crooks&#8217; bank accounts.</p>
<p>Alan</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Lake</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi John, 

Definitely not a rant, more a letting off of steam!! I think its got to us all - those of us like you that have a conscience and integrity as our main drivers.

Keep up the fantastic work John. 

Jon]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John, </p>
<p>Definitely not a rant, more a letting off of steam!! I think its got to us all &#8211; those of us like you that have a conscience and integrity as our main drivers.</p>
<p>Keep up the fantastic work John. </p>
<p>Jon</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi John

I&#039;m sad that a promising marketer has decided to leave the industry-I hope he changes his mind and returns soon- he&#039;s just the sort of guy who should stay IN the industry!

As always you lead by word and by example. Let&#039;s hope that the IM industry wakes up to the fact that people wo are treated well will trust people with their hard earned cash.

Mike]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sad that a promising marketer has decided to leave the industry-I hope he changes his mind and returns soon- he&#8217;s just the sort of guy who should stay IN the industry!</p>
<p>As always you lead by word and by example. Let&#8217;s hope that the IM industry wakes up to the fact that people wo are treated well will trust people with their hard earned cash.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Hayes</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 05:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi there John,

Just goes to show what an impact shonky marketers can have on a genuine person. There&#039;s no doubt that people are fed up with recycled crap that are full of hype sales pages with absolutely no substance whatsoever inside the covers. The industry suffers because unfortunately most other marketers who are sincere lose business being tared with the same brush as the dodgy marketers.

John, its a breath of fresh air to see that you are quite prepared to come out publicly and warn the gullible marketer to tread carefully and research before buying.

Kindest regards
Tom Hayes]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there John,</p>
<p>Just goes to show what an impact shonky marketers can have on a genuine person. There&#8217;s no doubt that people are fed up with recycled crap that are full of hype sales pages with absolutely no substance whatsoever inside the covers. The industry suffers because unfortunately most other marketers who are sincere lose business being tared with the same brush as the dodgy marketers.</p>
<p>John, its a breath of fresh air to see that you are quite prepared to come out publicly and warn the gullible marketer to tread carefully and research before buying.</p>
<p>Kindest regards<br />
Tom Hayes</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Newcombe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon Newcombe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 21:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello John,

          my name is Simon and I&#039;ve been doing internet marketing for about 7 month now, when I started I was taken into a couple bad training programs which I lost money with and had no return or offered any real value.

Your post has good infomation for the state of IM. As there are so many scamy products and scamy people out there within the internet. 

I think it makes it harder for people to want to get involved in this business, because they do not know who or what to trust.

Puting your name and emails into websites out there has got to have trust to it as they are trusting the owner of such website with these details, and hoping it&#039;s not just another FAKE where you may be taken for a ride. There should be some where these scamer&#039;s could be reported and locked up for stealing.   

This is making it so real people working online have found very little success and  give up fast.

As no vulue is offered then people will not want to know and stay well away from the FAKE one&#039;s out there trying to cashing in ON YOUR MONEY.

All should be careful and research what you are doing first and looking to get into, there is always more information before we purchase something just make sure you look first...

thanks for your article..

Regards,

simon newcombe...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello John,</p>
<p>          my name is Simon and I&#8217;ve been doing internet marketing for about 7 month now, when I started I was taken into a couple bad training programs which I lost money with and had no return or offered any real value.</p>
<p>Your post has good infomation for the state of IM. As there are so many scamy products and scamy people out there within the internet. </p>
<p>I think it makes it harder for people to want to get involved in this business, because they do not know who or what to trust.</p>
<p>Puting your name and emails into websites out there has got to have trust to it as they are trusting the owner of such website with these details, and hoping it&#8217;s not just another FAKE where you may be taken for a ride. There should be some where these scamer&#8217;s could be reported and locked up for stealing.   </p>
<p>This is making it so real people working online have found very little success and  give up fast.</p>
<p>As no vulue is offered then people will not want to know and stay well away from the FAKE one&#8217;s out there trying to cashing in ON YOUR MONEY.</p>
<p>All should be careful and research what you are doing first and looking to get into, there is always more information before we purchase something just make sure you look first&#8230;</p>
<p>thanks for your article..</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>simon newcombe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>https://johnthornhillonline.com/blog/the-state-of-the-im-industry/#comment-4068</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi John

I have always felt you were different than the rest of the hype out there. I am trying to make it on ethics and hope to see a sale someday. Being unemployed off and on, I cannot afford to keep throwing my money out the window on all these get rich quick promises. I get information overload sometimes, but still honestly believe that as my page ranks improve, eventually I will be seen.  Little by little I see visitors, of course not what I had hoped for.  Writing for Ezine Articles and then finding my articles stolen has turned me off a bit. I was raised to be honest and am amazed at how many people are so dishonest out there.  I guess it really comes out for the whole world to see.  I have 5 sites and enjoy working on them. I do know there is a lot that needs to be done to make them successful.  The honest people admit it all takes time to have a success. I believe this is the road I need to travel for now. It feels right. Thanks for the confirmation of what I have felt for sometime.

Mary]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John</p>
<p>I have always felt you were different than the rest of the hype out there. I am trying to make it on ethics and hope to see a sale someday. Being unemployed off and on, I cannot afford to keep throwing my money out the window on all these get rich quick promises. I get information overload sometimes, but still honestly believe that as my page ranks improve, eventually I will be seen.  Little by little I see visitors, of course not what I had hoped for.  Writing for Ezine Articles and then finding my articles stolen has turned me off a bit. I was raised to be honest and am amazed at how many people are so dishonest out there.  I guess it really comes out for the whole world to see.  I have 5 sites and enjoy working on them. I do know there is a lot that needs to be done to make them successful.  The honest people admit it all takes time to have a success. I believe this is the road I need to travel for now. It feels right. Thanks for the confirmation of what I have felt for sometime.</p>
<p>Mary</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree entirely John and don&#039;t consider this as a rant.  I have been observing closely over the last few months to guage where this industry is at, (to dertermine where I will fit) and yes, there are definitely two distinct &#039;camps&#039;.

I also observe a grey area in the middle where marketers who I had assumed fell into the &#039;ethical&#039; camp, are actually promoting the questionable products that would fall into the &#039;high refund category&#039;.  Obviously everyone can choose what they promote - but I am no longer on the list of this particular marketer.

So I guess my point is that the &#039;grey area&#039; is just as much an issue in the grand scheme of things and that reputable marketers who wish to remain so, should choose carefully who they work with.

Cheers
Carol

www.CarolClifford.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree entirely John and don&#8217;t consider this as a rant.  I have been observing closely over the last few months to guage where this industry is at, (to dertermine where I will fit) and yes, there are definitely two distinct &#8216;camps&#8217;.</p>
<p>I also observe a grey area in the middle where marketers who I had assumed fell into the &#8216;ethical&#8217; camp, are actually promoting the questionable products that would fall into the &#8216;high refund category&#8217;.  Obviously everyone can choose what they promote &#8211; but I am no longer on the list of this particular marketer.</p>
<p>So I guess my point is that the &#8216;grey area&#8217; is just as much an issue in the grand scheme of things and that reputable marketers who wish to remain so, should choose carefully who they work with.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Carol</p>
<p><a href="http://www.CarolClifford.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.CarolClifford.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Barry Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Wells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi John, I think it&#039;s a shame when people throw the towel after being ripped off, if this kind of thing happened in the street it would be classed as fraud and we could get the so and so&#039;s locked up.

It really rattles my cage to see honest hard working people give up on their dreams and I&#039;ve seen quite a few throw the towel in over the time i&#039;ve been online.

I do agree that their days are numbered, especially with posts like this highlighting the R Sole ways.

I have been on lists that carry out this kind of crap and have unsubscribed from nearly everyone of them. I&#039;ve stayed on the odd one or two, just in case they ever send me anything relating to the reason I subscribed in the first place. But I&#039;m really thinking about the odd one&#039;s that&#039;re left as well now.

&lt;b&gt;One good thing&lt;/b&gt; to come out of all this John...... &lt;b&gt;I know what not to do&lt;/b&gt; in order to build successfully. I&#039;m just sorry that it&#039;s at people like Rob&#039;s expence.

Another great post John, 

Barry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John, I think it&#8217;s a shame when people throw the towel after being ripped off, if this kind of thing happened in the street it would be classed as fraud and we could get the so and so&#8217;s locked up.</p>
<p>It really rattles my cage to see honest hard working people give up on their dreams and I&#8217;ve seen quite a few throw the towel in over the time i&#8217;ve been online.</p>
<p>I do agree that their days are numbered, especially with posts like this highlighting the R Sole ways.</p>
<p>I have been on lists that carry out this kind of crap and have unsubscribed from nearly everyone of them. I&#8217;ve stayed on the odd one or two, just in case they ever send me anything relating to the reason I subscribed in the first place. But I&#8217;m really thinking about the odd one&#8217;s that&#8217;re left as well now.</p>
<p><b>One good thing</b> to come out of all this John&#8230;&#8230; <b>I know what not to do</b> in order to build successfully. I&#8217;m just sorry that it&#8217;s at people like Rob&#8217;s expence.</p>
<p>Another great post John, </p>
<p>Barry</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 00:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi John
I totally agree with everything you have said and think it is a shame people have to give up what they are doing online.
I have been burned many tines in the past but have hopefully learnt my lesson.
Ethics and honesty just don&#039;t exist for some people.
Regards
Dee]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John<br />
I totally agree with everything you have said and think it is a shame people have to give up what they are doing online.<br />
I have been burned many tines in the past but have hopefully learnt my lesson.<br />
Ethics and honesty just don&#8217;t exist for some people.<br />
Regards<br />
Dee</p>
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