John, your my hero! 😀

SERIOUSLY…

I received an odd email here and there from yourself and one was about an audio product. I noticed that the site was no longer active, and I’d been meaning to send you an email about that! (Sorry I forgot!)

Now if I was going to be added to YOUR autoresponder series, then why the **** would I want to change anything without having the manners to go and tell you! It’s just rude!

Speaking of a rant though… (Nah, I’ll leave that for another day!)

Although I am working away on a few things, I’d die for you to promote a product of mine. In fact John, I’ll be sending you an email about this anyway. Just a few questions I have, for something, and I’d love to have your input! 😉

Now I know you send out quite a few emails and as you say, 28% is a lot. That’s probably quite huge when you consider what you’re actually doing for people! – It just spoils business when people don’t inform you about things!

FANTASTIC post John, and well said!

Thanks
Mark

This is interesting and informative all at the same time. It also teaches affiliate marketers to be careful of dishonest people. I will be E-mailing you about my Viral Video Websites, but wanted to thank you for excellent information on what to look for as an affliate marketer.

Incredible that folk could be so casual with their business.
It’s a great lesson for those of us hoping to end up somewhere near the level your business has reached!
Also important for any list marketing tho even at a small level.. A reminder of something even those of us at the early stages of our business still need to consider but most likely haven’t.

Thanks John

Andy

John

IMO it’s the short-sightedness of many IMers. They look for the big kill during launch, and then forget about that product as they go after the next big fish. I’d like to see more evergreen products and more marketers making long-term plans.

Kevin

Wow….

John that’s unbelievable. I can understand why you’re so upset man.
I’ve worked so hard to EARN my JV partners. I can say from experience that getting people with big lists to give you the time of day is not an easy task. It takes months of building trust and cultivating a good online relationship. After all, who needs who?

I now have over 168 affiliate partners and 3 of them have over 250k subscribers on their lists. The fact that someone would extend that sort of a gesture to help me build my business is not something I take lightly. as a matter of fact I keep them in the loop of what I’m doing and they are more than willing to help me because the communication is there.

It’s very important in marketing and, in life, to appreciate kind gestures and not take people for granted. I’m happy that you caught on to the problem and now you can promote me more!

Omar Martin
http://www.KickAssSalesPages.com

What a fantastic Opportunity for current readers John!

(And what a loss for those who faled to keep you informed!)

I think you may end up with a pretty full inbox soon…lol

Randy
http://www.RandofSmith.com

Man, after reading this, it makes my blood boils.

It happens to some marketers that I subscribed to on my list. Of course I did told them but I didn’t notice yours as I was on your list since last year. The links were probably still “alive” back then.

I believe those marketers understand how you felt too.

Nonetheless, I like the way you go all out, helping your students or little guys to get started. This simply shows you spare a thought for your students and a caring heart.

I’m saving money right now to hop onto your coaching program because I know it’s awesome. I might be able to give you a proven testimonial one day!

Thanks John.

That’s weird timing – my first ever product launches today!

These people are abusing a situation that most of us would be extremely grateful for. And I’m betting that these aren’t hyper successful marketers either. If you take people for granted in this way, it’s going to rebound on you. Internet marketing is a small world, what with blogs, forums, etc.

I’ll be sure to get in touch with you later today about my product.

All the best, John.

Pete.

Nice Post John,

I think that this is a small lesson to be learned by all of us who have auto responders, to have a small clean up every few months to ensure to we are not giving away free traffic and non affiliated products (note to self on this one).

Great post mate.

Dan

Hey, John. I have sent you an email offer about JV’ing with you. Just want to make sure you don’t let it slip through the masses, because I know we can make a fortune together promoting my product, Make Your Cash Stack™.

It pays a commission amount of 75%, which = $37.50 per sale to you, and I also pay 75% of the downsell, which = $18.75 for you.

Good post though… I’ve been screwed out of affiliate commissions before, and like you I will never deal with those dogs again.

Take it easy and drop me an email response…

Rich Boy
http://www.TheRichBoy.com

Hi John,
Like you, I am amazed at how stupid and greedy some Internet marketers are. How do they expect to survive long term, if they are only thinking of short-term gain?

I would treasure a group of super affiliates offering me their support and promotion of my business. I give 50% commission on all my eBooks and 45% of my sales come from affiliate sales that have cost me zilch to promote.

I’ll be in touch as I have an eBook that I think you would like to promote.

Kind Regards
David Dalton

That shows the difference between someone that’s running a serious business and someone that’s just fooling around.

It is a total lack of consideration and just plain bad manners.

Thanks for the awesome offer. You’ll be hearing from me soon.

Aloha,
June

Hi John

Great rant and well put. It so frustrating when you find something interesting only to have a bad link. I now try all links twice because I have trouble with cloaked and tracking links from some ARs. If I know the marketer I will send an email or support ticket but most of the emails bounce and I have no way of contecting the marketer.

However I now know why they don’t always work. 28% that’s about one in four no wonder I get so many bad links.

So thanks for the opportunity for us lesser but genuine marketers to have you offer to market our products.

Kerrie

Hi John,
I couldn’t believe my eyes when I read your rant!!! Talk about biting the hand that feeds you! You are the first IM person I’ve ever seen who has asked us for products to promote and the fact that there are morons out there who are too dumb to realize their good fortune is just unbelievable. Some day when I have my own product, I’ll humbly come and ask you to promote it, and then (well, you are now) you will be my hero for life.
Art

Hallo, Chums! I do not have affiliates nor do I do much Im-ing, so I guess I am more of a lurker than anything but I do enjoy all the information and postings on this blog.

I am commenting because I have found a site that all of us who enjoy selling Digital Downloads and whom had our throats cut on ebay can go to and take their ebay feedback with them! It is a rather well done site, too. It looks quite simple, at first – but in fact there are 20 million products being sold from 165 countries. The account pages are very funtional, and it is simple to and free to sign up. It is a place where all the bad things recently put in place by ebay, DON’T EXIST! So I just had to get this out to you. There is no affiliate program here, so I am not fishing for signups, or whatever – just sharing some good news!

Some facts:

It’s called iOffer.com
http://www.ioffer.com/info/home

4649 items found for: Ebook last night. Most are digital downloads!

The site says of itself:

This is not an auction. It’s better! No bids, reserve pricing, auction end times, and last minute sniping. iOffer is a trading community that allows you to buy, sell and trade – just like you would in real life – by negotiating.

Negotiation allows the buyer to make an offer on one or more items. Sellers can accept, counter, or decline the offer. Buyers get a good price. Sellers get the price they want. iOffer – an easier way to buy, sell and trade.

Now don’t get put off by the word negotiation! That is only one possibility under their Make An Offer feature. Buyers can buy instantly, or contact the seller to make an offer if the seller has selected this option.

If the seller or buyer is online, you can see it!

No insertion fees, just a final value fee when the item sells for sellers. The interesting thing is, you can grab all your ebay auctions and bring them to iOffer for free. Picture hosting is free, and unlimited. You can upload ten items or 10,000 items from auction sites with a few mouse clicks. Or create your own on iOffer’s sales page creation pages. Html is allowed. And most interesting, you may list a whole lot of items on ONE sales page and have visitors choose which ones they want out of your list!

All comummincations between potential buyers and sellers may be posted below the sales page but if you choose, the communication can be PRIVATE and viewable only by the seller and interested buyers.

You can accept or make OFFERS on any item if you choose, or just sell outright. Paypal is available as a payment option (Digital Delivery Heaven restored!) Google Checkout, Money Orders, Personal Checks, etc… your other items for sale are automatically presented along the left side of your sales page!

A free store is available if you put just two items in it! The store has its own shopping cart.

Feedback called a Rating is left for both sellers and buyers. But you don’t have to start all over as far as Feedback is concerned! If you are John Thornhill, you can move all of your thousands of feedback ratings directly to iOffer and they appear next to your username!

You can place a free WANT AD, Watch Items being sold, and contact any other seller through their email system.

Anyway, I am crazy about the place. I found three very, very RARE items in my niche for sale and promptly got them!

There is a books category, but you can sell ebooks in several categories. Doesn’t seem to be any restrictions on this. Yes, John’s classic 90 Day Powerseller ebook is for sale with resell rights!

GO CHECK THIS SITE OUT!

If just a few of the ebook sellers from ebay come to iOFFER and plant themselves, an island in the storm for ebook sellers will be created!

4,641 ebooks for sale as I write this on the site, so it is a place to get into on the ground floor, imho.

Multiple Streams, right? I don’t see why anybody couldn’t build their lists, and follow John’s advice on this site!

Best to all, David~

Hi, Zara! Wow! That’s all I can say about the Digital Magazine sample you put up! Makes most of our efforts look like leaky rowboats sitting next to the world’s largest luxury yachts!

What incredible work and planning must have gone into this idea!

Mega step forward if you can afford those kinds of graphics and organization behind it although I think that there is something to be said for the well-written plain old ebooks I have bought so many of that contain just the information I need or want and look decent at what can only be called the low end of ebook production now that I have seen this!

Ebooks are a model-T kind of thing, anyway. It is not surprising that such a leap in quality is possible for the Corporate Guys with a lot of production resources.

Still, a well written ebook from ANYBODY with solid information in it can sell, and sell well, imho.

I am somewhat surprised that ebooks are not more often powerpoint presentations which are so much more impressive on a computer screen but .PDF seem to be the standard, and I love ’em. You can print them out and take them anywhere if you like or send them to friends instantly, put them on portable reading devices, etc., but what you have shown us is trully impressive, too!

Hello John,

28%. O-U-C-H, that hurts. I don’t blame you for ranting and rightfully so.

I don’t understand why anyone would go to the trouble of gaining your confidence and having you (the top internet marketer in my opinion) to promote a product for them then take down the sales page, especially if they are making even a little bit of money.

That doesn’t make any sense at all.

If they were going to change anything, they could have at the very least sent you a courtesy email to give you a heads up by explaining the reason why they were doing what they were doing.

There are those of us who would do just about anything to have you promote our products for us, yet there were those who took your promoting for them for granted. I don’t understand that.

I’m sure they will regret it one day. As the saying goes, what goes around comes around and some day someone is going to do the exact same thing to them.

All is not lost though. I tend to look at the bright side of things.

This gives you a chance to weed out and get rid of all of the dead beats and gain a whole new influx of internet marketers who would truly appreciate the opportunity to have you promote for them and never take you for granted.

This is also a great opportunity for all of us little guys (or girls) who need all of the help that we can get in promoting our products and it is icing on the cake to get them promoted by an expert internet marketer.

Thank you, John

Hang in there.

Because you are the type of person that you are and because you are the way that you are, the only thing that can happen is that you will come out on top.

Regards,

Angela
http://www.resellrightsandplrmadesimple.com

Hi John

The thought of never being able to do business with you again would frighten the life out of me-I’d do anything to avoid it!

Thanks for a great post, and for your enduring skill, creativity, fairness and sincerity. There are thousands of people who wouldn’t have made a cent online if you hadn’t shown them the way. Keep up the fantastic work!

Michael Robinson
http://www.startmakingonlineprofit.com